#189740 - 07/21/10 12:55 PM
Re: mosque at ground zero 9/11 ??
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inkblister
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The problem is the book they follow comes first in their lives. Just as the bible is the book christians follow...but christians have not made a vow to wipe a country off the face of the earth or to kill those who don't accept christianity. And then their is the case of Muslims in service to our country..problems like the one that just happened in Texas by an American Muslim who finally made a choice and killed a few Americans for Allah! Obie has backpedalled all over the place to keep this little problem from bering thought on very much because he is a secret Muslim and has promised at the finsal poimnt to stand with the Muslims I thinmk he wrote about in his book.
Paul
aaaand we're back to crazytown... Do you honestly believe that every muslim out there has "made a vow to wipe a country off the face of the earth or to kill those who don't accept christianity"?... If this were true, I think either Christianity or Islam wouldn't even exist today... One would have wiped the other a looong time ago...
You are obviously taking the example of the very few extremists and applying it to all muslims... I'm sure there are muslims who share your P.O.V. and assume all christians are exactly like the few extremists in it's ranks... You are coming more and more across as having more similarities and in common with these people than differences... At least in my opinion... The more you obsess about your enemy, the more like him you become...
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#189741 - 07/21/10 01:08 PM
Re: mosque at ground zero 9/11 ??
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Paulwa_dup1
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Only the Muslims who follow its book to the letter. But who knows when a peaceful moderate muslim will decide to jihad? Until he acts there is no evidence he is remaining peaceful.
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#189742 - 07/21/10 01:21 PM
Re: mosque at ground zero 9/11 ??
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inkblister
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So what are you trying to say?... Your arguement seems to be "we should put this dog down because it *might* bite someone even though it hasn't"...
The exact arguement can be said about christians... But who knows when a peaceful moderate christian will decide to kill another doctor who performs abortions or kill a homosexual?... Until he acts there is no evidence he is remaining tolerant...
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#189744 - 07/21/10 02:02 PM
Re: mosque at ground zero 9/11 ??
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ævory
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[quote=Paulwa_dup1]The problem is the book they follow comes first in their lives. Just as the bible is the book christians follow...but christians have not made a vow to wipe a country off the face of the earth or to kill those who don't accept christianity. And then their is the case of Muslims in service to our country..problems like the one that just happened in Texas by an American Muslim who finally made a choice and killed a few Americans for Allah! Obie has backpedalled all over the place to keep this little problem from bering thought on very much because he is a secret Muslim and has promised at the finsal poimnt to stand with the Muslims I thinmk he wrote about in his book.
Paul
You are obviously taking the example of the very few extremists and applying it to all muslims...
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And, this is unlike how a few of you post consistently an article about the big bad christians so you can all dally on over to it and spill your insides out? ha! You guys and gals are a trip, really. Starlight starts a thread over and again on the religion forum to let it rip...and, you do. And, everything is fine as long as everyone else just STFU.  You are calling yourself crazy.
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#189746 - 07/21/10 02:38 PM
Re: mosque at ground zero 9/11 ??
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inkblister
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Oh boo-hoo Aevory... The only reason I use christians as the example is because relateable to Paulwa (who is making the arguement) and the majority of readers here... You obviously have no idea what it's like to truely be in a minority, hence your inability to be sympathetic or empathetic to another point of view...
If we were in Israel, I would probably use the Jewish faith as the example... India; Hinduism... Japan; Buddhism... You're so busy nitpicking for trigger words that you're missing the big picture and the actual heart of the discussion...
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#189749 - 07/21/10 04:00 PM
Re: mosque at ground zero 9/11 ??
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flicka
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Starlight starts a thread over and again on the religion forum to let it rip...and, you do..
It makes for an active board. I thought that would make you happy.
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#189750 - 07/21/10 06:17 PM
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Paulwa_dup1
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Inkblister you are a sojourner in a foreign mind (Christian) and do not speak any different than any other individual. Christians have Gods Holy Spirit residing within them to teach them the ways of God. Not a christian..no holy spirit guiding you in the christian way. Biblically speaking.
Jesus said the gift of the Holy Spirit would be with eve3ry christian accepting Him as lord and saviour. He is our comforter, teacher and gives us peace in tribulation.
Paul
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#189755 - 07/21/10 07:13 PM
Re: mosque at ground zero 9/11 ??
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flicka
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Christians have Gods Holy Spirit residing within them to teach them the ways of God. Not a christian..no holy spirit guiding you in the christian way. Biblically speaking.
Biblically speaking, Jesus didn't say that the holy spirit would only reside in Christians.
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#189756 - 07/21/10 07:17 PM
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Johnboy 64
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paulwa, is not the typical christian flix, imo. no offense meant, paul, but you are extreme lol
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#189757 - 07/21/10 07:49 PM
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flicka
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It just amazes me that a person will avoid the truth of one statement of Jesus directed at the world, yet take one that is obviously directed to a certain group of people as "gospel".
I guess it is true that everyone (including me) can find proof of any argument in the Bible...
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#189759 - 07/21/10 10:05 PM
Re: mosque at ground zero 9/11 ??
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Paulwa_dup1
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As you believe Flicka. :-)
Paul
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#189769 - 07/22/10 10:12 AM
Re: mosque at ground zero 9/11 ??
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corlorde
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The problem is the book they follow comes first in their lives. Just as the bible is the book christians follow...but christians have not made a vow to wipe a country off the face of the earth or to kill those who don't accept christianity.
How do you account for the majority of Muslims who are fighting and dying for our stated objectives in the War on terror?
And then their is the case of Muslims in service to our country..problems like the one that just happened in Texas by an American Muslim who finally made a choice and killed a few Americans for Allah!
This is true, but the fact remains we cannot wage our current war(s) without the help of Muslims. If you think we can analyze data that comes from these various countries without Muslims, think again. Major Nidal Malik Hasan fell through the cracks and there is no doubt about it.
Obie has backpedalled all over the place to keep this little problem from bering thought on very much because he is a secret Muslim and has promised at the finsal poimnt to stand with the Muslims I thinmk he wrote about in his book.
Paul
I don't understand this. Could you articulate what you mean more please? You are aware aware that the President has escalated our war against "extremist Jihadism" to an unprecedented level, right? Guantanamo Bay is still open, rendition is still going on, and Predator Drone activity is reminiscent of our bombing of Cambodia...and that is happening in Pakistan, the Horn of Africa etc. Along with our SpecOps activity there. You might want to be more precise in your criticism...and there is plenty to criticize. It's hard not being a keyboard Ranger. Believe me, I know. My advice? Get it together, stay focused.
~Corey
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#189773 - 07/22/10 12:41 PM
Re: mosque at ground zero 9/11 ??
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Paulwa_dup1
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First of all we know Obie is probably only after mineral treasure newly found in Afghanistan. We should be backing out of Iran and Afghanistan immediately and bringing our troops home and we should not be increasing forces in South Korea either. If we need to put our forces anywhere in my opinion it shoud be around Israel...BUT THEY DON'T AND WON'T NEED OUR HELP THERE EVER. Just our moral support for backup. It is time for our American version of Palidan to holster their peacemaker sixshooter, just saddle up and come home and let the chips fall where they may. IMO.
Thanks for the advice Colorde. Noted. :-)
Paul
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#189779 - 07/22/10 01:31 PM
Re: mosque at ground zero 9/11 ??
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flicka
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First of all we know Obie is probably only after mineral treasure newly found in Afghanistan.
lolol
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#189818 - 07/22/10 07:00 PM
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corlorde
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First of all we know Obie is probably only after mineral treasure newly found in Afghanistan.
In your estimation, was that the goal, all along?
we should not be increasing forces in South Korea either.
We are not increasing forces in South Korea. We have removed several Brigades from South Korea since the time I was there. The mission I was once a part of is gone. 2ID has since been reorganized.
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