#188689 - 07/07/10 02:27 PM
Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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Winterwhite
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I've previously visited this site and since I'm an older polio quad am very interested in the effects of aging on disabilities etc. Topics that are important to me are obtaining health aides, assisted living facilities specific to physical disabilities, housing options etc. I'm surprised that there isn't more discussions on some of these topics since many of us are going to get there.
One thing is for certain - you can't rely on the gov't or gov't agencies to help you out. The onus of survival is going to fall on ourselves.
Any thoughts?????? Winterwhite.
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#188722 - 07/07/10 08:11 PM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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MerryA
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I am also post-polio.
Lately, aging has been a pain, literally. I hurt more, I sleep more, I eat less but don't lose weight. I am developing skin things that are quite disturbing! Not the tags, I can clip them but callous type things on my arms and legs. Plus what used to be up is now down and down is so low I can't see it anymore.
I am fortunate in that my husband and I own our home so mods only require some planning and a little saving. The grabber has been saving my back the last several weeks.
I also now sleep with five (yes 5!) pillows - two under my head, one under my arm, one between my knees, and one at my back - talk about regressing to the craddle. Of course then I have nights where I can't sleep and most of the pillows end up on the floor. 
It seems I am constantly re-arranging things to get them lower and within reach.
Now if I could just find something for my aching neck from spending so much time on the computer.
BTW - welcome to New Mobility. Check out PowerQuad.net if you get a chance - some of us post both places.
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#188750 - 07/08/10 02:07 PM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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Paul I
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What I find distressing is what happens when one can't fully care for themselves and perhaps is alone. Can't get the long term care insurance. They only want people that will live long and pay their premiums and die quickly. If one has any savings it must be depleted before the government helps and then one is unable to buy anything for fun. A buddy lives in EL Paso and has a Mexican lady
that lives in house and is a caregiver. Works for him.
Frankly, unless one has family nearby it's not something to look forward to.
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#188756 - 07/08/10 05:28 PM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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Winterwhite
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MerryA,
Thank you for the comments. This August it will be 50 years since I contracted polio. I remember thinking when I was 35 - that if I could keep the musculature, energy and function I had, I'd be ok! How nieve . The last 6 or so years have seen a lot of regression and I'm finding I am needing more care and assistance. I pay for my home health aid out of pocket and that is for one hour in the morning. My youngest brother assists me in getting to bed at night. If anything happened to him, I'd be in a nursing home. Agencies don't have the resources, health care funds are being cut and they are putting more restrictions on getting services. Not particularly good I fear. But we keep plugging away. Thank you. Mary
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#188758 - 07/08/10 05:39 PM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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Winterwhite
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Hi Paul,
Believe it or not, I occasionally think about moving to Mexico so that I can afford care. I believe that I once read about an assistive living facility in Mexico that has worked with a number of challenged Americans. Maybe that concept will become a reality. Thanks for responding. Mary
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#188769 - 07/08/10 09:46 PM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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Paul I
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My Lady wants to move to Panama for the same reasons. Pretty American friendly.
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#189033 - 07/13/10 09:41 AM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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Millard
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I am an ageing C5-C6 Quad (63 years old, 43 years post). The most noticeable change I have noticed is loss of muscle tissue in my forearms. I still have plenty of strength for transferring but the forearms are getting "skinny". I'll be talking to my doctor about this loss. I still work with weights so my routine has not changed. More later.
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#189047 - 07/13/10 11:53 AM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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paradocs
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Hi Paul,
Believe it or not, I occasionally think about moving to Mexico so that I can afford care... Mary
A number of years ago I new a SCI guy who tried Mexico for a couple of years. I don't remember where he went or whether he was in a care facility. Since he is no longer living I can't ask him for details. Anyway, after a year or so, he came back to the US because he felt the medical care available in Mexico was not as good as in this country. Whether that gap has been closed, I can't say.
I also can't comment on care in Panama like Paul mentioned.
I know there are various post-polio groups around the country. Maybe some of them can offer suggestions if you can find one online.
Here is a link that may help.
http://www.ppsr.com/infolocator.html
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#189266 - 07/15/10 03:42 PM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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Paul I
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Panama is the "medical center" for Central America. Best doctors, most US trained. Panama City is a real city like Denver, St. Louis, etc. except no snow. The main expressway, meaning it's paved and a good road,(Pan American Highway) goes west to Costa Rico and turns into a gravel road. This is interesting-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-American_Highway#Dari.C3.A9n_Gap-but go to the top.
Medical Insurance runs less than $100/month and a person can live on $1200/month including everything, even domestic help.
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#191853 - 08/27/10 12:29 PM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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Stormi
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I don't have post polio but I feel I have post Cerebral palsy syndrome.. I've gotten worse since the age of 14 .. Chronic pain settled in mid 20's early 30's electric wheelchair 36 .. major fatigue... It's a pain to date .. I'm too tired *LOL* I used to have such fun ...
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#191870 - 08/27/10 08:23 PM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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Lola
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i'm younger than you a bit, tara, but i hear you girl! i can totally relate!
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#192076 - 09/01/10 01:00 PM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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Winterwhite
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Hi Millard,
In response to your reply, I'm 67 and 50 years post. I happen to be a post-polio but have noticed more and more muscle loss with each year. I've reconciled myself to the fact it is inevitable.
I've often wondered why someone hasn't thought about a community for the physically challenged where the people themselves hire an aid or two to help them with their physical needs. I know of someone in Tucson who has been pursuing a government grant to start a housing project where everyone has their own unit but share services. It's much like buying into a condo/house unit and sharing some facilities and the personnel. You own your unit and pay for the help; It sounds viable but seems to have gone nowhere. Interesting thought.
Care to go to Mexico with me? lol Winterwhite
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#192077 - 09/01/10 01:30 PM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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Winterwhite
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Hi Millard,
In response to your reply, I'm 67 and 50 years post. I happen to be a post-polio but have noticed more and more muscle loss with each year. I've reconciled myself to the fact it is inevitable.
I've often wondered why someone hasn't thought about a community for the physically challenged where the people themselves hire an aid or two to help them with their physical needs. I know of someone in Tucson who has been pursuing a government grant to start a housing project where everyone has their own unit but share services. It's much like buying into a condo/house unit and sharing some facilities and the personnel. You own your unit and pay for the help; It sounds viable but seems to have gone nowhere. Interesting thought.
Care to go to Mexico with me? lol Winterwhite
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#192089 - 09/01/10 07:26 PM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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Paul I
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Guess what, Winterwhite- I'm 67 and 50 years post SCI. "42" must have been a good year!
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#192286 - 09/05/10 12:09 PM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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Winterwhite
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1942 was a good year especially the wine! lol I guess we are what you call the real survivors. We should start our own 50 plus-ers.
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#192294 - 09/05/10 07:14 PM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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Lola
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yum, yum, yum .... WINE  !!!! it does get better with age!!
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#194751 - 10/27/10 04:27 PM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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Millard
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I saw my neurologist last week. He has determined that years of walking with crutches have damaged my ulner nerves in both arms. I was told to "Learn to live with it! Nothing can be done."
Note: I have been in a power chair for the last six years.
Edited by Millard (10/27/10 04:34 PM)
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#194787 - 10/28/10 01:55 PM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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ladyheart
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I have recently been thinking of such a community you mentioned Mary, we have tons of assisted living facility geared to the 70plus folks who have substantial incomes. My Mom lives in one not to far from me, pays about $4000mo, and she does not even require physical care at this point, it would cost considerably more if she did.
If there were a "younger" more affordable similiar type facility where folks could receive the care needed and still have whatever degree of independence they want or can do.
I am fortunate to qualify for in home help a few hours a day right now, but maintaining a house and all that goes with it is getting harder and harder.
My husband "does not get it" and I feel it's only a matter of time before a major domestic shift will occur.
I'm tired all the time, and see very few options out there to improve the quality of my life at this point.
Wish I could gather up all of us in one place, hire some great aides, a 5 star chef to cook for us, and kick back and wile away the hours playing bingo, scrabble and and whatever else we'd all like to do.
t'is but a dream I know, folks.
take care,
Donna
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#194921 - 10/30/10 12:23 PM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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Paulwa_dup1
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Our household is moving into that area now also. I can do little with my arthritis and my wife is overworked and won't slow down. I know she can't keep up this pace because she is 72 and a cancer surviver with arthritis and other medical problems starting wiith her. Our son in his late thirties lives with us and is busy with his life but does kind of watch over us. I think we could use some help by someone outside the home but am totally unknowledgeable about this. My wife drags her feet on the subject but I can see it coming down the pike pretty fast no matter what she says. I think such things as walk in shower may be in our near future, expensive as that is, I find just a simple shower is getting very hard for me and sitting down in the tub would be impossible cause I couldn't get up. I can't button my shirts and am finding simple daily routine to be harder by the day. Aging with medical problems is very common these days with many people and it is unnerving wondering how we are gong to deal with it all.
Paul
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#194922 - 10/30/10 03:52 PM
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ladyheart
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I am just 56 and dread the thought of living another couple of decades potentially, probably less, but the downhill sprial is scary.
There might be some agencies that focus on your age bracket and can provide some helpful suggestions in your area. Look under Senior services, council on aging, even a local senior citizen center to start.
Good luck,
take care,
Donna
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#194923 - 10/30/10 03:59 PM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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Paul I
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Paul, the best option I've seen for showers short of a remodel is if you have a bathtub the shower chair that is inside the tub and goes over to the outside so one can sit down of the outside and then slide over to the inside thus eliminating the need to step into the shower. I also recently bought a button hook and can't figure out why I waited so long.
http://www.youcantoocan.com/
http://www.caremedicalsource.com/Shop/Bath-Safety/Transfer-Benches
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#194924 - 10/30/10 06:40 PM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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Paulwa_dup1
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Thanks for the ideas, Paul. I have a good tub chair finally. I think our 1940's bath needs upgrading. Ha.
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#194936 - 11/01/10 12:12 PM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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paradocs
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...I can't button my shirts and am finding simple daily routine to be harder by the day. Aging with medical problems is very common these days with many people and it is unnerving wondering how we are gong to deal with it all.
Paul
I find buttoning shirts difficult, too, so I have gone to snaps which work better for me, but may be harder with your arthritis. If they won't work for you, try to find someone who can sew some Velcro strips onto your shirts.
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#195059 - 11/04/10 12:53 PM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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Winterwhite
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I was just reading some of the more recent replies to this subject. I think what this would take is some government funded inexpensive housing strictly limited to the physically challenged. What I envision is mini suites on the outer circle with centralized dining and socialization areas where people could congregate at will if so desired. I think the community could hire their own aides/therapists which would be shared by the group. What might be nice is a communal dinner or hire someone to cook for the group once or twice a week. And of course the location would have to be in the sunny southwest! I could even go for some hanky panky every now and then! lol Mary
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#195069 - 11/04/10 04:57 PM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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Peaches
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Contact your statewide Area Agency on Aging. It might be called something different in your state. There is a national funded program each state runs according to their own agenda. It is for people who are at risk of going into nursing homes.
AND IT WORKS!!!
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#195133 - 11/05/10 07:05 PM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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Paul I
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Button hooks and zipper pulls- http://www.youcantoocan.com/
I have them; they work.
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#195225 - 11/09/10 01:49 PM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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paradocs
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I was just reading some of the more recent replies to this subject. I think what this would take is some government funded inexpensive housing strictly limited to the physically challenged. What I envision is mini suites on the outer circle with centralized dining and socialization areas where people could congregate at will if so desired. I think the community could hire their own aides/therapists which would be shared by the group. What might be nice is a communal dinner or hire someone to cook for the group once or twice a week. And of course the location would have to be in the sunny southwest! I could even go for some hanky panky every now and then! lol Mary
In some areas these are called "Independent Living Centers." There is one here in the South Texas area called the Valley Association for Independent Living," or "VAIL." I know no one associated with it, but here is a link to their website. You could try a Google search for independent living centers in the state or city that interests you and see what comes up.
http://www.valleyassociation.org/
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#203385 - 03/05/13 09:11 PM
Re: Amazed that there isn't more discussion on aging.
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kysilver77
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I was wondering wher all the older folk hang out, I guess I am to late looks kinda empty, If anyone wants to talk, give me a shout
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