#189000 - 07/12/10 07:08 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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Johnboy 64
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The heads of BHO's National Debt Commission seem a little pessimistic in the face of upcoming $14 Trillion+ deficit. Looks like those of us on entitlement programs are screwed. Simpson said the entirety of the nation's current discretionary spending is consumed by the Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security programs.
"The rest of the federal government, including fighting two wars, homeland security, education, art, culture, you name it, veterans, the whole rest of the discretionary budget, is being financed by China and other countries," said Simpson. China alone currently holds $920 billion in U.S. IOUs.
Bowles said if the U.S. makes no changes it will be spending $2 trillion by 2020 just for interest on the national debt.
yep, and B.O. isnt making it any better, if he is please show me where.
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#189002 - 07/12/10 07:20 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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flicka
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yep, and B.O. isnt making it any better, if he is please show me where.
He hasn't cut entitlement spending yet, but I really don't see too much choice down the road. He can cut spending all he wants, but that won't change the fact that entitlement programs are taking all our money.
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#189003 - 07/12/10 07:23 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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Johnboy 64
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yep, and B.O. isnt making it any better, if he is please show me where.
He hasn't cut entitlement spending yet, but I really don't see too much choice down the road. He can cut spending all he wants, but that won't change the fact that entitlement programs are taking all our money.
new medicare cuts all the tiime.... shrub or b.o. or both
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#189004 - 07/12/10 07:26 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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flicka
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The startling fact that these programs consume all discretionary spending leaves no choice but to make cuts somewhere.
Edited by flicka (07/12/10 07:27 PM)
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#189005 - 07/12/10 07:35 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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Johnboy 64
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but b.o. EXPANDED medicaid
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#189006 - 07/12/10 07:44 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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flicka
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That burden is more on state budgets. Obama actually made cuts in federal medicaid funding (as did Bush).
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#189007 - 07/12/10 07:46 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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YosemiteSam
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Flicka said,"Looks like those of us on entitlement programs are screwed."
Not yet, but it looks like it won't be long. His use of the Recess Appointment for Donald Berwick and his views on rationing and redistribution of wealth using health care and his joining with Dr. Ezeliel Emanoal an advocate of rationing.
I'd say the disabled are double-screwed.
Edited by YosemiteSam (07/12/10 07:52 PM)
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#189009 - 07/12/10 07:55 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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flicka
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Yes, Berwick is the grim reaper. Unfortunately, he speaks the truth on creating an efficient national health care plan. I don't have a problem with those with wealth more paying more toward health care for the old, disabled, poor & homeless. All strong organizations/societies take care of their own.
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#189011 - 07/12/10 08:14 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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flicka
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and redistribution of wealth using health care
You know, I've never understood what those people who claim health care is a personal right mean, until just now. To see it condensed to "redistribution of wealth" makes a major impact. I have always contended that rather than run wild & cast those of inferior health outside the walls of the city, we need to tell the medical monopolies to [censored] off & bus in guest workers to handle our needs. 
Happily, I am seeing some major changes in our choices for health care. Those programs, like Lifeline Screening, who come around and offer diagnostic testing for a fraction of the cost, are pretty encouraging. My dad went to one shortly before his bone cancer diagnosis. It was pretty eye opening. Had he not gone from the cancer, he had severe PAD. Up to that point, his doctor had only noticed his carotid arteries were fuucked.
Anyway...
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#189012 - 07/12/10 08:26 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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flicka
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Up to that point, his doctor had only noticed his carotid arteries were fuucked.
This isn't quite true. My dad's first signal that his health was gone was having trouble breathing. My dad was positive something was wrong with his heart, or a valve, or something. He'd insisted on seeing a heart specialist who goes to our church. He finally got a medicare referral appointment for a week before he died. That doctor told dad an artery going to his heart was almost completely blocked.
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#189017 - 07/12/10 09:36 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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You just can't explain Obies motives except in the negative..no matter what he says he does the other thing instead to America's amazement..We goin down boy!!(Howlin Mad Murdock of ATeam fame)
Except for christians which say..We be goin up people!(Jesus of New Testament fame!)
Paul
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#189018 - 07/12/10 09:38 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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You just can't explain Obies motives except in the negative..no matter what he says he does the other thing instead to America's amazement..We goin down boy!!(Howlin Mad Murdock of ATeam fame)
Except for christians ..We be goin up people!(Jesus of New Testament fame!)
Paul
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#189019 - 07/12/10 09:53 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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flicka
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Except for christians ..We be goin up people!(Jesus of New Testament fame!)
I think that was Bush's plan for getting out of the mess.
Didn't work for him in a timely manner, either...
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#189026 - 07/13/10 07:37 AM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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Greg
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Black Panthers with nightsticks are allowed to alienate voters at election time and his people refuse take them to court or file charges against them..
See this is what I was talking about yesterday, if you chose to just get your "facts" from Fox News and the right wing bloggers you have just confirmed again you are uninformed, just a shill for the right wing hype.
The case to which you refer was dropped by the Bush adminstration before Obama was in office. This information is all over other news reporting. I wonder if your hero Hannity will correct the record?
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#189040 - 07/13/10 11:14 AM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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flicka
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I wonder if your hero Hannity will correct the record?
Hannity is a blathering fool. He's so bad tht even my conservative county tossed him off the air.
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