#188900 - 07/11/10 04:50 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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Greg
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I do not understand why Paul (who is not an ignorant man) is so willing to spread rumors & lies about the President of the United States.
LMAO
you give Paul way too much credit, remember all that anti christ BS from this Obama hater
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#188901 - 07/11/10 05:20 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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flicka
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It's not like I'm asking Paul to prove that Obama is the antichrist. In fact, he can claim that all he wants as long as he doesn't lie about facts along the way. I don't think that superstitious beliefs are a sign of ignorance.
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#188902 - 07/11/10 05:35 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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Greg
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Yeh, Obama said we live in the greatest country in the world and asked us if we would help him change it! Wasn't that what he said..I think so.
Paul
geesh you're like dog with a bone.
I'm not in the habit of defending Paul but his statement was in keeping with what I think is his core opinion of Obama.
Have you never conflated things you've heard a person say?
Finally, he ended with, "I think so", so he was adding that possability of doubt.
Given it was Paul who said it and this thought is held by many I really don't see it as a BFD.
Paul, you may want to add disclaimers to your remembered quotes next time. 
I gotta go, good luck with your prosecutorial case.
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#188903 - 07/11/10 06:00 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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Johnboy 64
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I knew the statement posted was incorrect
how bout this one vant find it n snopes
Barack OBAMA, during his Cairo speech, said:
"I know, too, that Islam has always been a part of America 's story."
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#188904 - 07/11/10 06:20 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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flicka
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It's true, JB. Here it is in context:
I know, too, that Islam has always been a part of America's story. The first nation to recognize my country was Morocco. In signing the Treaty of Tripoli in 1796, our second President John Adams wrote, "The United States has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Muslims." And since our founding, American Muslims have enriched the United States. They have fought in our wars, served in government, stood for civil rights, started businesses, taught at our Universities, excelled in our sports arenas, won Nobel Prizes, built our tallest building, and lit the Olympic Torch. And when the first Muslim-American was recently elected to Congress, he took the oath to defend our Constitution using the same Holy Koran that one of our Founding Fathers – Thomas Jefferson – kept in his personal library. entire speech
Sounds okay to me.
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#188905 - 07/11/10 06:25 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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flicka
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his statement was in keeping with what I think is his core opinion of Obama.
Paul was not expressing an opinion. He now is stating that he even saw and heard Obama say it. That is a lie.
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#188906 - 07/11/10 06:43 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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Paulwa_dup1
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To thye best ofmy recollection I do think I remember him saying that or something similar. Would II swear on a bible to t? No I wouldn't because I can not verify it and my memory is not 100 per cent on this statement. Like Bush..there is something in Obama's political thinking and speaches that just turn me away. I think he is a phoney..but it is only my opinion. I for the life of me cannot see how Obama supporters agree with the people he picks for his cabnets..the way he goes around the end on Congress to place these people without congressional comment..the way he deliberately turns away from the will of the people of this country and throws there feeliings to be trampled in the dust. Worst I think he is letgyting black Americans down considering the good he could do. He was raised with a socialist and some say communist bent througout his life and training and education. He will in a showdown side with the Islamic side and not the christian. The majority of Amercan are christan and this does not bode well with them. Thus the Tea Party movement.
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#188907 - 07/11/10 06:57 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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flicka
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..the way he goes around the end on Congress to place these people without congressional comment..
He's not the first, but I'll give you this one.
the way he deliberately turns away from the will of the people of this country and throws there feeliings to be trampled in the dust.
On this one I'd like to see an example of this type of behavior, please.
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#188908 - 07/11/10 06:58 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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It's true, JB. Here it is in context: I know, too, that Islam has always been a part of America's story. The first nation to recognize my country was Morocco. In signing the Treaty of Tripoli in 1796, our second President John Adams wrote, "The United States has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Muslims." And since our founding, American Muslims have enriched the United States. They have fought in our wars, served in government, stood for civil rights, started businesses, taught at our Universities, excelled in our sports arenas, won Nobel Prizes, built our tallest building, and lit the Olympic Torch. And when the first Muslim-American was recently elected to Congress, he took the oath to defend our Constitution using the same Holy Koran that one of our Founding Fathers – Thomas Jefferson – kept in his personal library. entire speechSounds okay to me.
thanks, yep it's fine now that i see full context. i couldnt find it anyhere, but rightwingnut sites... so i figured either untrue or out of context
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#188909 - 07/11/10 07:44 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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flicka
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That is one thing I can say about you, JB, despite your disagreement with Obama's policies. I've never seen you claim something as fact without knowing it is truth, or questioning its credibility.
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#188911 - 07/11/10 08:25 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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Paulwa_dup1
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For the record I never give facts..just the way I have heard or understood things to be. Who can give facts anyway because they may be proven wrong by tomorrow.
Paul
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#188913 - 07/11/10 09:03 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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flicka
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For the record I never give facts..
You'll get no argument from me.
Who can give facts anyway because they may be proven wrong by tomorrow.
I can. I can tell you for a fact that you did not see a video clip of Obama making that statement. If it were true, the video would be headlines in the Obama hating crowd. If it turns up on the internet tomorrow, it's been edited and is still not the truth.
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#188915 - 07/11/10 09:08 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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Paulwa_dup1
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I still think I remember him saying that because Beck and Oreilly and others did make a fuss about it at that time. He said it when he was still running for president and saw he would likely win the presidency. I can understand you not wanting to remember it.
Paul
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#188916 - 07/11/10 09:20 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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flicka
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I can understand you not wanting to remember it.
I hadn't heard it until last night. I looked it up and it's not true.
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#188917 - 07/11/10 09:42 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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Paulwa_dup1
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Well I can't argue with you about it.You are probably pretty good at researching things, Maybe some one else made those statements and attributed them to Obama, memory is pretty undependable sometimes. But he does think America s great and then wants to go in and change it all around..what aboutthat? He sure doesn't seem to want to restore it to our Constitutional heritage it seems.
Paul
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