#188745 - 07/08/10 01:18 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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Johnboy 64
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blah blah blah just a jackin your jaw gonna let it roll off of my back...
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#188747 - 07/08/10 01:36 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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Greg
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so you read my post but refused to answer JB? just as I suspected
let me repeat my question: If repubs win in 2012, since they ALL disagree with Health Care Reform would they repeal it?
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#188748 - 07/08/10 01:57 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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Greg
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surprise, surprise, no response LMAO
closing bell, quittin time
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#188751 - 07/08/10 02:24 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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Paul I
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Bush went into Afghanistan because it was the only dramatic thing he could do after 9/11. He reached part of his goal- getting the Taliban out of Afghanistan but failed with bin Laden and then landed us in Iraq. If we abandon the Afghan people they will be heading down the same path they were before we came as the Taliban were taking over. I find their Shia law as they see it to be the most inhuman, brutal, power crazy and psychologically twisted and pathetic as any human behavior could be. Remember when they executed a young lady in the soccer stadium for some minor offense? Sick, sick, sick. Can we abandon they to that?
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#188775 - 07/09/10 07:55 AM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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Greg
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If we abandon the Afghan people they will be heading down the same path they were before we came as the Taliban were taking over. I find their Shia law as they see it to be the most inhuman, brutal, power crazy and psychologically twisted and pathetic as any human behavior could be. Remember when they executed a young lady in the soccer stadium for some minor offense? Sick, sick, sick. Can we abandon they to that?
Very noble but it is their country, THEIR COUNTRY, their destiny. What right does the US have to interfere? Because you can?
What did Bush say, oh yea, the US will end tyranny and spread democracy around the world, neocon exspansionist policy through pre-emptive militarist conquest and occupation.
The US is building schools in Afghanistan while back at home their own educational infrastructure is crumbling.
I'm glad Canada is getting out of Afghanistan in February 2011, enough of our best being killed supporting a mission that should end.
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#188784 - 07/09/10 10:30 AM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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Johnboy 64
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so you read my post but refused to answer JB? just as I suspected
let me repeat my question: If repubs win in 2012, since they ALL disagree with Health Care Reform would they repeal it? 1. This is not what you deleted. 2. i am not here to entertain you. i'll answer at my leisure and only if i choose to answer... i was waiting to see if you'd delete and you did
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#188785 - 07/09/10 10:32 AM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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Johnboy 64
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surprise, surprise, no response LMAO
closing bell, quittin time
you think i'm goin to jump when you say NOT
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#188786 - 07/09/10 11:39 AM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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Greg
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i am not here to entertain you.
Oh, but you do
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#188787 - 07/09/10 12:01 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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Greg
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surprise, surprise, no response LMAO
closing bell, quittin time you think i'm goin to jump when you say NOT
LMAO
btw, here's a tip, stock symbol NOT is a great Canadian buy that should be a 3X or 4X bagger
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#188789 - 07/09/10 01:16 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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Johnboy 64
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i am not here to entertain you. Oh, but you do
at least i have some value to you wish i could say the same to you
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#188794 - 07/09/10 02:45 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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btw, here's a tip, stock symbol NOT is a great Canadian buy that should be a 3X or 4X bagger
Noront Resources Ltd closed @ $1.17 today, 52 week range .59-3.01
Maybe I'll test Greg's stock picking, I'll put a buy order in at $1.10 and a sell at $3.30 - The only problem is the commission, I'll have to go for at least 1,000 shares
Last time it hit $3.30 looks like about 8/08 so it might be loooong experiment, but $1,100 isn't more than I'd risk at a craps table, SO unless Greg has a better stock to take a flier on I'll put the order in Monday.
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#188795 - 07/09/10 02:49 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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Paul I
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My post was not nobility. It's my opinion of what's fair. The Soviets tried to take the place and when we supplied Stingers to the Afghans the tide changed. Our history of sticking our nose into their business is not new. The Taliban would like nothing better than to gain a serious foothold in the economic and governmental centers of Pakistan. Then they become a major regional threat.
So far as I know the Afghans have never attacked another country. They are quite busy defending their country. Iraq, in my estimation should be abandoned. We have done every possible thing we could for them but they want to self-destruct. Afghanistan is not comparable to Iraq. It is totally lopsided when confronting opposition as they have little defense and no coherent country to respond as a unit.And we need to get Karzi out of there.
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#188796 - 07/09/10 02:56 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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ghoti
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Our biggest problem with both Iraq and Afghanistan is that we have no clearly-defined exit strategy. Both of these wars were started with the grandiose and totally naive idea from the neocons that we were going to convert the entire middle-east to democracy and change them from enemies to allies.
Bush and company either never studied the history of the middle-east or totally disregarded it. The people of that region have been living under monarchies and dictatorships for over 5000 years and have no concept of democratic government. They've also been killing each other for at least that long and have grievances and feuds against each other so long-standing that it boggles the mind.
IMO we should NEVER have gotten involved there and should now get out ASAP. The best thing we could possibly do is to vigorously pursue alternative energy sources so we don't need their damned oil any more. Then they can go back to herding goats and camels and killing each other like they were doing before their oil made us give a damn about them and gave them wealth and importance.
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#188799 - 07/09/10 03:07 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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Greg
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btw, here's a tip, stock symbol NOT is a great Canadian buy that should be a 3X or 4X bagger Noront Resources Ltd closed @ $1.17 today, 52 week range .59-3.01 Maybe I'll test Greg's stock picking, I'll put a buy order in at $1.10 and a sell at $3.30 - The only problem is the commission, I'll have to go for at least 1,000 shares Last time it hit $3.30 looks like about 8/08 so it might be loooong experiment, but $1,100 isn't more than I'd risk at a craps table, SO unless Greg has a better stock to take a flier on I'll put the order in Monday.
I'm flattered that you'd consider my rec. How do you know I'm not just a pump and dumper?
Bob, in case you're serious and for your own DD you might want to check out either: http://www.norontresources.com/ http://agoracom.com/ir/Noront
By the way did you sell your GS and take the loss or are you in for the long haul? I'm thinking of getting in around $135 now that the finacial reg storm is over and IPOs have started moving again.
Edited by Greg (07/09/10 03:14 PM)
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#188800 - 07/09/10 03:13 PM
Re: Will the US accept a "Loss" in Afghanistan?
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Greg
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IMO we should NEVER have gotten involved there and should now get out ASAP.
I agree, the biggest stumbling block I see is the whole concept of acheiving a "win" that McCain/Lieberman/Graham amd their ilk will exploit for the neocon agenda and just plain political purposes.
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