#188688 - 07/07/10 02:22 PM
Re: Atheists' Billboard Vandalized in NC
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Either way we will get the truth or the other possibility..oblivian..in which case truth will not matter.
It may not matter, but it will still be the truth.
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#188690 - 07/07/10 02:34 PM
Re: Atheists' Billboard Vandalized in NC
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Paulwa_dup1
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Yep!
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#188696 - 07/07/10 03:16 PM
Re: Atheists' Billboard Vandalized in NC
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shakey56
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accepted evidence and reasoned evaluation not acceptable..proven scientific evidence is acceptable or my choice, when God reveals it all to us, is the other choice. Either way we will get the truth or the other possibility..oblivian..in which case truth will not matter.
Paul
lol...yet you reject proven scientific evidence when it goes against your beliefs.
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#188697 - 07/07/10 03:21 PM
Re: Atheists' Billboard Vandalized in NC
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No Greg. While I agree Paul is a perversion, I have no need for a God and far less for religion. I don't consider myself to be an atheist. I just don't know if there is a God. However, I do know I have no need for one. Thus, God has no place in my life.
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#188698 - 07/07/10 04:22 PM
Re: Atheists' Billboard Vandalized in NC
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Paulwa_dup1
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What proven scientific evidence have I rejected, Shakey?
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#188701 - 07/07/10 04:32 PM
Re: Atheists' Billboard Vandalized in NC
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shakey56
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Anything to support evolution.
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#188702 - 07/07/10 04:37 PM
Re: Atheists' Billboard Vandalized in NC
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Paulwa_dup1
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No because I don't consider evolution a legitimate science and never will. I think there are more high power scientists dropping away from evolution hypothesis by the day. Sorry this is just the way I see it and untill it is defianately proven with hard evidencial facts I will not change.
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#188708 - 07/07/10 05:21 PM
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shakey56
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Hell's bells, God his own damn self could tell you evolution is a fact, and you'd call him a liar.
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#188715 - 07/07/10 06:58 PM
Re: Atheists' Billboard Vandalized in NC
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No because I don't consider evolution a legitimate science and never will. I think there are more high power scientists dropping away from evolution hypothesis by the day. Sorry this is just the way I see it and untill it is defianately proven with hard evidencial facts I will not change.
Which scientists?... Can you please provide a list of names?...
Okay, so you you will never change your position unless proven with evidence that you will never look at?... WTF...
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#188740 - 07/08/10 12:38 PM
Re: Atheists' Billboard Vandalized in NC
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I pretty much keep a watch on what the evolutionist find and say when I see it, inkblister.But I am not a scientist and not a lot comes down the pike for us common folk. I think Lucy may have been the last info I have seen and as far as I know the truth about her is still forming.
Just a thought, what physical size would a creator have to be to form our universes? But then the Holy Word says He spoke them into existance and that God is a spirit and that He created all through His son Jesus.
And where did all of the material of existance come from. What if there were no material, then what would existance be? What would it be like if there were absolutely nothing anywhere? OK so where did all matter come from? How can there be eternal existance? We only know time, a beginning and ending...what if there were no time. I think all this is too far beyond my understanding and best left to God to explain.
Paul
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#188743 - 07/08/10 01:13 PM
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shakey56
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DAMN! Paul oughta be a politician...lol Diverted the question and reinforced his message all in one paragraph.
Just a thought....God is one of the most egotistical of all of man's creations. Why are we so reluctant to allow nature to be the creator? Could it be that it would take us out of the picture? Look at all origin myths. Some sentient being is almost always involved. We just have too much ego to face the truth.
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#188749 - 07/08/10 02:00 PM
Re: Atheists' Billboard Vandalized in NC
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inkblister
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I pretty much keep a watch on what the evolutionist find and say when I see it, inkblister.But I am not a scientist and not a lot comes down the pike for us common folk. I think Lucy may have been the last info I have seen and as far as I know the truth about her is still forming.
Just a thought, what physical size would a creator have to be to form our universes? But then the Holy Word says He spoke them into existance and that God is a spirit and that He created all through His son Jesus.
And where did all of the material of existance come from. What if there were no material, then what would existance be? What would it be like if there were absolutely nothing anywhere? OK so where did all matter come from? How can there be eternal existance? We only know time, a beginning and ending...what if there were no time. I think all this is too far beyond my understanding and best left to God to explain.
Paul
So if "not a lot comes down the pike for us common folk" then where are you getting your information?... You don't have to be a scientist to find a list or at the very least a link... I'm just curious as to the source of your supposition...
As for as the source of all this matter that makes up the physical world, there is the "Big Bang" theory, String theory, M theory, etc... Check out Einstein, Hawking, Witten, Veneziano, etc... Oh wait, that would require reading, research, and reasoning... I guess it's just easier to use faith and scream while plugging your ears and closing your eyes... After all, ignorance is bliss huh?...
If you believe god delivered his teachings through man to write the bible, how do you know that maybe god is not also speaking through those afore mentioned thinkers to explain the universe?... Or does god not speak through man anymore (unless they have a church and appearantly need money/donations)?... What if when you die and there is a god and you ask him for all the answers and he replies, "I did, you just didn't bother to listen to or read it"?... Knowledge is power my friend, and the more you speak, the more useless you are coming across... You are waaaaaaaaayyy out of your depth in this subject buddy...
Edited by inkblister (07/08/10 02:09 PM)
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#188766 - 07/08/10 08:12 PM
Re: Atheists' Billboard Vandalized in NC
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Dr. Eugenie Scott gives one of the best lectures I've seen so far on this topic. Great series if you have the time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEnFJTgr9x4
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#188767 - 07/08/10 08:54 PM
Re: Atheists' Billboard Vandalized in NC
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Paulwa_dup1
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I think that is just what I explained, inkblister. Those were questions not answers my friend. You are right I do gather most of my information from christian scientists. Why would I select any other scientist who has agenda to denigrate the creator? After all you don't spend much time with christian scientists and their enlightenment I would think.
Paul
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#188768 - 07/08/10 09:28 PM
Re: Atheists' Billboard Vandalized in NC
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Paulwa_dup1
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Spent about a half hour Deo, but think she needs to cut to the chase. A two hour lecture and her logic didn't really do to much for me.
Probly will never know how gresat all that was because like you say I don't have that much time to listen to it all.
Paul
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