#186200 - 04/26/10 04:11 PM
Re: arizona signs immigration law
[Re: Paul I]
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Greg
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Why not take it one step further lazer, if you catch a damn illegal why not tatoo them so it makes it easier next time to catch them. Sound familar?
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#186201 - 04/26/10 04:18 PM
Re: arizona signs immigration law
[Re: Paul I]
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lazer
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So you have illegal husband and wife with 3 kids under 6 born in the US. How do you handle this?
A boy,17, entire immediate family entered illegally from Mexico years ago. The boy is graduating with honors and in science competition won a full scholarship to MIT. He never questioned his citizenship until he was discovered to be an illegal. What do you do?
good questions...... there is no fair or good answers
1st question, under law kids are usa citizens, but under circumstances of illegal parents, send them all home....
2....... if u let him stay, u just say if someones illegal and goes far they can beat the system
its a lose lose situation for taxpayers...... or a win win for illegals
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#186202 - 04/26/10 04:23 PM
Re: arizona signs immigration law
[Re: lazer]
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Skylark
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we can worry about the 50,000 irish after we take care of the 20 million mexicans
What does this say about you? Illegal is illegal. are u retarded skylark? 3rd time, they are trying to solve the 400,000 illegal mexicans, and if they get lucky and find the 10 illegal irish or 25 jamaicans, good for them........ what part of KICK ALL THE ILLEGALS OUT dont u get skylark?
I'm not "retarded."
But you ARE biased.
What makes you think there's a difference between illegal aliens?
What makes the Irish illegal "trivial" and the "mexican" illegal "major"?
What is the difference? Seriously.
Are they all not breaking the law in exactly the same way?
There is no race, no color, no relligious or pigmentation difference when it comes to breaking the law.
(You did a not-so-clever backpedal, there ... I'm going to your earlier posts ... )
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#186203 - 04/26/10 04:23 PM
Re: arizona signs immigration law
[Re: Greg]
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lazer
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Why not take it one step further lazer, if you catch a damn illegal why not tatoo them so it makes it easier next time to catch them. Sound familar?
i dont hear u or anyone making suggestions on how to control the 20 million and growing illegal immigrant problem,
until u contribute ideas, dont condemn those who finally got off their asses and tried
tattooing is a stretch..... maybe if caught a 2nd time, ok, lol.....
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#186205 - 04/26/10 04:27 PM
Re: arizona signs immigration law
[Re: lazer]
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lazer
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i told u the difference skylark, 3 times, READ!!
4th time, there is no difference, but solve the 400,000 problem, then worry about the small number
get it skylark? if not, yes u are retarded
what dont u get, KICK ALL ILLEGALS OUT, regardless of race
duh!
sorry, i cant explain it any easier than 3rd grade level skylark
Edited by lazer (04/26/10 04:30 PM)
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#186208 - 04/26/10 04:51 PM
Re: arizona signs immigration law
[Re: Skylark]
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flicka
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What is the difference? Seriously.
Mexicans are easier to spot than Irish. And, even though Lazer thinks this law is profiling, unconstitutional, and trouble, he thinks it's good. I'm with you, I don't get it.
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#186209 - 04/26/10 04:56 PM
Re: arizona signs immigration law
[Re: flicka]
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lazer
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What is the difference? Seriously.
Mexicans are easier to spot than Irish. And, even though Lazer thinks this law is profiling, unconstitutional, and trouble, he thinks it's good. I'm with you, I don't get it.
yup...... true
im ok with profiling, i think its necessary to solve stuff
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#186216 - 04/26/10 06:17 PM
Re: arizona signs immigration law
[Re: lazer]
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flicka
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im ok with profiling, i think its necessary to solve stuff
Okay, now I get it.
I'm not okay with profiling, but I know it will be around forever. I do think it's dangerous passing laws that encourage it.
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#186237 - 04/27/10 07:18 AM
Re: arizona signs immigration law
[Re: lazer]
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Greg
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Why not take it one step further lazer, if you catch a damn illegal why not tatoo them so it makes it easier next time to catch them. Sound familar? i dont hear u or anyone making suggestions on how to control the 20 million and growing illegal immigrant problem, until u contribute ideas, dont condemn those who finally got off their asses and tried tattooing is a stretch..... maybe if caught a 2nd time, ok, lol.....
go to the roots of the issue B&B, Border and Business regulation.
cops are't immigration officers.
people like you scare me.
btw tatooing was used by Hitler to:
"Jews, and many non-Jews were tattooed during the Holocaust in order to identify each individual. It was Hitler's way of keeping tabs on it's population through the selection process, (ridding Germany of undesirables like Jews, Gays, etc.). Each number had it's significant meaning, for example: 01234567. The "0" was possibly the persons RACE. Number "1" meant the person was good for LABOR. Number 2 meant the person's religion, and 3 possibly meant the person is headed for the GAS chambers."
Edited by Greg (04/27/10 07:22 AM)
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#186239 - 04/27/10 09:21 AM
Re: arizona signs immigration law
[Re: Greg]
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ghoti
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If we were serious about reducing illegal immigration we would start prosecuting all the employers who hire them. If the jobs disappeared here then most of the illegals would stay home.
Problem is that those employers are mostly wealthy and powerful folks who contribute freely to political candidates so no one has the balls to crack down on them. So we take the easy way out and blame the illegals, most of whom are hard working folks who are here trying to make a better life for themselves and their families.
As usual in politics, money trumps common sense and decency.
Edited by ghoti (04/27/10 09:22 AM)
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#186253 - 04/27/10 02:10 PM
Re: arizona signs immigration law
[Re: ghoti]
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flicka
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If we were serious about reducing illegal immigration we would start prosecuting all the employers who hire them.
Absolutely. If Arizona was serious, that would be the approach to the problem.
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#186256 - 04/27/10 02:26 PM
Re: arizona signs immigration law
[Re: flicka]
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Paulwa_dup1
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I think common sense is the right approach. If a Mexican is here legally he should give contact information and it can be sorted out later. If he doesn't have any drivers license or other documentation then that is reason for probable cause to hold for further iidentfication. Legal mexican /americans should carry proof of ID. Most other Americans carry such proof with them all the time.
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#186261 - 04/27/10 02:40 PM
Re: arizona signs immigration law
[Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Greg
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Think if you were a legal hispanic with teenage kids. It is shitty to think your kids would very likely be hasseled just because of their skin colour.
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#186263 - 04/27/10 03:38 PM
Re: arizona signs immigration law
[Re: Greg]
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lazer
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you all want to solve a problem instanty with no hassles and no inconveniences
i agree with paul, everyone should carry ID......
maybe military should just surround every city, then have the law go in and ID everyone black, white, yellow and brown, and then everyone would be equal
boo hoo, u can cry over it, i wont
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#186264 - 04/27/10 03:39 PM
Re: arizona signs immigration law
[Re: Greg]
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Paul I
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Many illegals have falsified documentation good enough to fool employers.
AZ is paying the price of this faulty bill to require police to enforce immigration laws. Cancellations of conventions, tournaments, etc. because large corporations must be politically correct. Our demented legislature furthers the fiscal problems of the state on top of the idiotic moves they have already made. Oh well, we may be broke but we have our permitless concealed weapons so at least we are all safe.
Are we not all, in essence, illegal with the exception of native americans and hispanics who have been here many generations. We had the raw power to conquer these indiginous
people and then changed the rules. As things are going maybe we will have the tables turned and will end up being illegals .
Incidentally, I believe the young honor student was deported.
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