#185812 - 04/18/10 09:14 AM
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lazer
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he should be
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#185814 - 04/18/10 09:23 AM
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#185819 - 04/18/10 12:12 PM
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ævory
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certificate of online real birth.
where did they find it! lazer? in the basement of the Univ. of Law School he attended? still....only place I EVER was asked for my VERY ORIGINAL really real birth certificate was in CA when applying for a drivers license. They didn't even want a copy.
can you believe?
anyway....wasn't he born on those now 'non-seeable' islands off of Hawaii...? i can completely feel convinced that anyone can do anything they darn sure want to do....just look at the Bahamas and how they did John trovalta's son's death. Those Bahama peeps never even got sent to trial...off SKOTT-free.
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#185821 - 04/18/10 01:37 PM
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Paulwa_dup1
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Flicka brought up an important point, since his mother was an American thatmakesObama an american no matter what country he was born in.
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#185822 - 04/18/10 02:05 PM
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lazer
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get facts straight aevory.......
travoltas sons death? no one killed him, it was a extortion trial, nothing to do with wrongful death and it was a mistrial
2nd, obamas birth certificate was online. its not the original, they say they dont keep the original full filled out forms, they only have those kind to hand out
they named 3 other presidents born overseas but were still classified as natural born
interesting mccain was born overseas.... no one said anything when he ran
personally i think whole thing is stupid.... its not like he lived 1st 15 years in kenya, lol
u nuts and your conspiracy theories, hehe
my point in all of this was original post, a guy being court martialled cuz he questions obamas birth and wont obey orders
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#185824 - 04/18/10 02:21 PM
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McCain was born in Panama if I remember correctly.
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#185825 - 04/18/10 02:27 PM
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i can completely feel convinced that anyone can do anything they darn sure want to do
Besides the birth certificate & birth notices in two Hawaiian newspapers, the most compelling proof for me is that Hillary Clinton & her team didn't discover anything underhanded. If it was there, they would have found it.
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#185826 - 04/18/10 02:34 PM
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He looks like that Heaven's Gate nut.
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#185838 - 04/18/10 04:36 PM
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It is all part of the "he is not one us" that a segment of the US population harbours toward Obama. This attitude also bolsters the tea partier's attitudes towards Obama and why they are so viseral. All you have to do is look at the demographic of the tea partiers and it don't take much insight to figure out what is at the root of much of the disdain.
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#185839 - 04/18/10 04:49 PM
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All you have to do is look at the demographic of the tea partiers and it don't take much insight to figure out what is at the root of much of the disdain.
I'd actually say it is varying degrees of fear that is behind the tea party movement.
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#185845 - 04/18/10 09:24 PM
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Greg
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fear of what?
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#185846 - 04/18/10 09:35 PM
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The unknown.
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#185853 - 04/19/10 07:13 AM
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ævory
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get facts straight aevory.......
travoltas sons death? no one killed him, it was a extortion trial, nothing to do with wrongful death and it was a mistrial
2nd, obamas birth certificate was online. its not the original, they say they dont keep the original full filled out forms, they only have those kind to hand out
they named 3 other presidents born overseas but were still classified as natural born
interesting mccain was born overseas.... no one said anything when he ran
personally i think whole thing is stupid.... its not like he lived 1st 15 years in kenya, lol
u nuts and your conspiracy theories, hehe
my point in all of this was original post, a guy being court martialled cuz he questions obamas birth and wont obey orders
You misunderstood what I wrote, Lazer. Or just messing with me. I would not tell those who love to vacation in the Bahamas (that I meet on the street, or those I know in my off-line life) what I think of their Bahama. Knowing what I do about the Travolta case and some others before that happened with his son there....on principle, if I were T. I would sell my house and home and forget about spending another USA dollar in the Bahamas. But...that would ruin some folks' fun...if I told them, ...like telling another you dislike a program they just love...it can put a damper on their feelings. blah blah blah...NO, this has nothing to do with your post.
But it was just a bit of introspection on my part as I 'thought' about your post. I do think that anyone..especially a govt entity can do anything they want with the right circumstances and money, etc....they're apt to be corrupt, til caught. And I said I think Obama was born off on one of those lil islands off of Hawaii. Those islands are now gone. What Hawaii does is not my concern. And truthfully, like other topics on here, I bring them up because they Can be debated////because I find it interesting that it Can be debated. Personally, I never really cared a hoot either whether he is legit or not, for president of the United States of America, thru his birth. What I did find interesting was the instant finger-pointing of who is hateful and who is (you supply the label) by the left whenever the topic Was brought up. I mean, Jesus LIVES...God is aLIVE...and naysayers still want proof. If God can be disputed as being alive, if Jesus can be disputed as having risen to heaven and being there, Now, waiting on Us....loving Us, desiring Us to join him in love...then, surely, man can dispute man as to whether a man (a president) was born on US soil.
A court martial for the guy you posted about? Sure...why not. No debate.
But get off your lil antagonistic lark about what I know because YES I am dumbfounded and ignorant about some issues........but not about what I was thinking about as it pertains to travolta's incident there in the Bahamas. The trial was ended prematurely and we know why, ...................................and, I didn't say that the boy had been killed. You posted a bunch of whoop-ass for yourself that doesn't exist.
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#185855 - 04/19/10 08:49 AM
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lazer
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what are u talking about aevory?
all the bahamas thing was a extortion case, big whoop.... guys just said pay us money or we give away personal details of sons death.......
you condemn bahama for that? lol........
your right tho, money and power can buy silence and corrupt stuff......
could all the obama birth stuff be made up? sure, who knows?
personally. who cares
if he was white, no one would care, so that makes u all racist
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#185856 - 04/19/10 08:57 AM
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if he was white, no one would care,
exactly
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#185861 - 04/19/10 12:36 PM
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They would if the white man were headng politically where Obie is headed!!!!
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#185863 - 04/19/10 01:03 PM
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Greg
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the whole birther thing was there from the beginning, long before people started whining about where Obie was headed!!!!!!!!
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#185874 - 04/19/10 03:23 PM
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Why is the "birther" thing still around?
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#185945 - 04/21/10 12:08 PM
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To bad, Greg, you can't be here to whine with the Americans who have to clean up his mess and suffer the result of his Progressive bent! The world is now starting to come down on those who are spending and borrowing their countries into bankruptcy. TV is saying right now that each american is in debt to our government for around $47,000 right now. I don't think we have room to turn around to save ourselves and our country. We have already passed the point of no return. If we stopped spending rght now and borrowing we would be a bloody mess and might never recover. But anyway I have given up talking about this stuff and have replaced it all with music instead..like Helltel california! :-)
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#185946 - 04/21/10 12:28 PM
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lazer
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paul, ask yourself why or how peoples debt started
all people have to do is pay the state annd federal income tax, the rest is theirs
alot of people are great to blame government when they sunk themselves in debt
im tired of hearing people bitch about their credit card bill debt, yet they keep using it
people keep buying and buying, yet wonder why they are in debt
and thats your fault, not governments........
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#185947 - 04/21/10 12:46 PM
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Lazer the government is spending us out of house and home. True people spend themselves into debt too much but we are tricklers compared to the floodgates of government spending. It is their spending that is sinking the ship of state not the peoples debt.
Paul
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#185948 - 04/21/10 01:12 PM
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To bad, Greg, you can't be here to whine with the Americans who have to clean up his mess and suffer the result of his Progressive bent! The world is now starting to come down on those who are spending and borrowing their countries into bankruptcy. TV is saying right now that each american is in debt to our government for around $47,000 right now. I don't think we have room to turn around to save ourselves and our country. We have already passed the point of no return. If we stopped spending rght now and borrowing we would be a bloody mess and might never recover. But anyway I have given up talking about this stuff and have replaced it all with music instead..like Helltel california! :-)
Paul
Why is the ones who contribute the least always complain the most?
You have given up talking about this stuff? Yea, you prove that here everyday. LOL
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#185949 - 04/21/10 01:15 PM
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lazer
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i do agree theres alot of wasteful spending, but theres also alot of good
some big companies are starting to pay back government bailouts
id be a hated president, i wouldnt give money to other countries, i would cut out every wasteful thing i could find and focus spending on usa citizens
forget stimulus checks, youd all get debit card vouchers that you have 6 months to use, or lose it
id spend a billion building wall between usa and mexico
and so much more........
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#185951 - 04/21/10 01:50 PM
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flicka
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They would if the white man were headng politically where Obie is headed!!!!
If true, where was the uprising during the Bush years?
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#185956 - 04/21/10 02:20 PM
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lazer
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They would if the white man were headng politically where Obie is headed!!!! If true, where was the uprising during the Bush years?
i really feel paul and aevory and others so against him are somewhat racist
if it was a white guy, i bet theyd talk differently
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#185962 - 04/21/10 03:28 PM
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Nope, Lazer don't care if he was green or blurple if he was bankrupting the country I'd be hollerin my head off. Color has nothing to do with it. I am sad because I think he is messing it up for the black men who might want to run for president in the future. The racist in this country would say what happened last time we voted them in?? It is a shame we elected a progressive into office to destroy us. I will be totally shocked if Obie blunders through all this somehow. I wish he was right and would throw the brakes on all ths government growth and spending goiing on. Bush was crap in a lot of ways because he was also a Progressive and globalyst as was his father whom I also detested. They were on the same track but they were miniscule in their thinking, looks like Obie is just set to derail our economy train. Sheesh!! am I at this again?? Crapola!! Wish you guys would talk about somethin else for a change. Had to quit listening to Beck so much couldn't tell if he was preaching or giving political talks. Don't think he knows where he is at anymore.
Paul
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#185967 - 04/21/10 04:27 PM
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flicka
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I will be totally shocked if Obie blunders through all this somehow.
If Bush could blunder his way through, I have faith Obama can.
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#185984 - 04/21/10 09:48 PM
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Obie's plowing up much deeper furrows than both Bushes put together!:-)
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#185992 - 04/22/10 06:45 AM
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Greg
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Obie's plowing up much deeper furrows than both Bushes put together!:-)
BS, Obama has saved your country from years of financial pain, the speed and depth of the recovery is phenomenal plus simultaneously tackling other issues other presidents didn't have the courage to take on
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