#184943 - 03/30/10 06:27 AM
And the world didn't end
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Greg
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(CNN) -- Scientists at the Large Hadron Collider managed to make two proton beams collide at high energy Tuesday, marking a "new territory" in physics, according to CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research.
The $10 billion research tool has been accelerating the beams since November in the LHC's 17-mile tunnel on the border of Switzerland and France.
The beams have routinely been circulating at 3.5 TeV, or teraelectron volts, the highest energy achieved at the LHC so far, according to CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/science/03/30/large.hadron.collider/index.html?hpt=T1
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#184957 - 03/30/10 01:03 PM
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Might just take some time for the Micro to trigger the Macro, Greg...Got your fingers iin your ears? May take a few minutes...will it be a bang or a BANGY!!!!:-)
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#184972 - 03/30/10 05:26 PM
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if it creates a black hole, u honestly wont have time to fingerpoint and say "i told you so"
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#185145 - 04/02/10 12:03 PM
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2012 isn't here yet. 
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#185147 - 04/02/10 12:08 PM
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I think the Mayans just got tired of making calendars and quit at 2012, that's all. :-)
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#185150 - 04/02/10 12:53 PM
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Thinking the the Mayans had some mysterious knowledge that modern science has missed is laughable. They were incredibly primitive people still living in the stone age and practicing human sacrifices to please their gods when the Spanish discovered them.
The only way the world as we know it will end in 2012 is if Sarah Palin gets elected president.
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#185187 - 04/02/10 04:51 PM
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Ghoti Thinking the the Mayans had some mysterious knowledge that modern science has missed is laughable.
There's a lot of "discoveries" that mainstream science (in all fields) will not accept into their studies. Funding, convention, etc. are just a few reasons why this is so. For example Tesla and Einstein.
Maybe we're not smart enough to have figured out what that knowledge is yet.
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#185238 - 04/03/10 02:29 PM
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the mayans werent talking about an actual physical end to the world, but a dramatic shift in how we think, interact etc. it's already happening.
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#185299 - 04/04/10 04:49 PM
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the mayans werent talking about an actual physical end to the world, but a dramatic shift in how we think, interact etc. it's already happening.
 Exactly!
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#185302 - 04/04/10 08:36 PM
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not being able to ask the Mayans, we only have speculation as to what they were actually talking abt, no?
RR, you seem predisposed to accept anything not mainstream. Isn't that more dangerous than being a sceptic? Oh and if it's not why are you such a sceptic with regard to mainstream science?
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#185318 - 04/05/10 05:05 PM
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Shakey56 not being able to ask the Mayans, we only have speculation as to what they were actually talking abt, no?
RR, you seem predisposed to accept anything not mainstream. Isn't that more dangerous than being a sceptic? Oh and if it's not why are you such a sceptic with regard to mainstream science?
Shakey if there's only one thing quadriplegia has given me in this life it is time to read, study, workshop, conventions, seminairs, university..............
To say that I accept anything but mainstream is a serious "jump to conclusions". Before making any judgement call one should have something to back up their conclusion other than a few sentences.
Whether "anything" is mainstream or not any smart individual would examine it very closely to make sure it is as presented. Otherwise what was one way on week 1 is usually found to end up the other way on week 2. AND, there they are with "egg on their face".
What makes mainstream science the "sermon from the mount, the last word, the infallible truth?" They've been wrong so many times I doubt that anyone can count that high.
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#185319 - 04/05/10 05:22 PM
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Yet your reading comprehension sucks...lol I said predisposed to accept which does not say you do accept anything. It only says you appear to be much more likely to. You have argued for the paranormal which makes mainstream science look infallible. You have argued for psychics which make mainstream science look God like in it's infallibility. You have argued that oil renews rapidly enough to supply our needs...need I go on?
ONOH, any mainstream science or institution seems suspect to you. Just wonder why the suspicion isn't universal?
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#185332 - 04/05/10 07:37 PM
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Shakey Yet your reading comprehension sucks...lol I said predisposed to accept which does not say you do accept anything. It only says you appear to be much more likely to. You have argued for the paranormal which makes mainstream science look infallible. You have argued for psychics which make mainstream science look God like in it's infallibility. You have argued that oil renews rapidly enough to supply our needs...need I go on?
ONOH, any mainstream science or institution seems suspect to you. Just wonder why the suspicion isn't universal?
Yes, you will have to go on. You are wrong I have NOT said "oil renews rapidly enough to supply our needs", so I guess your reading comprehension is no better than mine. My reply was that there is another view, a theory on oil origins out there which goes against the accepted theory of "peak oil". Just simply that.
Personally I cannot be held responsible for what mainstream anything looks like or accepts. If you "wonder why the suspicion isn't universal" it means one of 2 things. Either I am wrong along with the others who have the audacity to read, study, independently think about whichever topic, or it means the majority is wrong in accepting what is told to them just because it came from mainstream.
Just simply that.
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#185333 - 04/05/10 10:17 PM
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I would contend it means you are biased just like most of us. You tend to accept that which more closely resembles your views.
It does not mean your reading, studying and/or thinking is done more often or is somehow better than the reading, studying and/or thinking done by those who have come to accept the mainstream after considering the alternatives. There are those who blindly accept on either side of any argument just as there are those who inform themselves.
I did not say you were responsible for anything other than your own thoughts and actions.
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#185334 - 04/05/10 11:25 PM
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shakey56I would contend it means you are biased just like most of us. You tend to accept that which more closely resembles your views.
No argument there.
shakey56It does not mean your reading, studying and/or thinking is done more often or is somehow better than the reading, studying and/or thinking done by those who have come to accept the mainstream after considering the alternatives. There are those who blindly accept on either side of any argument just as there are those who inform themselves.
Again, I absolutely agree. It has been my personal experience, more than not, that there are those who more "blindly accept". I certainly did not intend to give any impression of somehow superior reading, studying, thinking than someone else. However, I do expect that anyone debating on any topic should have studied both sides of whatever the topic is.
Shakey56I did not say you were responsible for anything other than your own thoughts and actions.
I got the impression from your remark that unless one was "mainstream" they were somehow unacceptable.
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