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#150741 - 04/18/09 07:46 AM Why do we backslide?
cronnie36
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Is it just me? Am I the only one who keeps getting tangled up and finding myself fighting to stay in the faith? Am I the only one who fights sin time and again only to give in later? Why doesn't it stop? This life is miserable, and I am sick. Resist the devil and he will flee from me, and yet he returns stronger than before because I have allowed sin to weaken me one time, and then another. Once the first sin creeps in the rest will follow quickly without perseverance and prayer. I am weak. I will continue to fight until I am free from this entanglement, before I am overcome, and am no longer concerned about my backsliding ways.


Well..Thanks for listening. As you may know I have been under the chastening of God lately. Everything I touch falls apart rather quickly and my patience has worn thin.


I need prayers.

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#150796 - 04/18/09 09:55 PM Re: Why do we backslide? [Re: cronnie36]
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Prayers for peace are lifted.

We all sin and fall short of the glory of God. God forgives. Ask and it shall be given.
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#150798 - 04/18/09 10:27 PM Re: Why do we backslide? [Re: MerryA]
Paulwa_dup1
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Cronnie I am one of those who believe once a person is truly saved..he has done all asked of him in turning over his life to Jesus Christ..even if he is never baptized in the immersion of water..he is saved eternally. I don't think that once a person is saved he will ever turn away from his knowledge of Jesus nor what He did to give salvation to that person. Of course you will fail and sin but Jesus says to forgive seventy times seven..or as many times as he is asked for forgiveness. So God does not ever take back this gift of salvation once given and accepted. As long as in your heart you know Jesus is your focal point of life, no matter if you like the prodigal son has gone astray, Jesus will welcome you back the minute you ask His forgiveness. If you never ask forgivness you are still covered by His blood to salvation. I know there is a lot of debate on backsliding and when I was young and in the Assembly of God church I was at the altar every other night repenting of backsliding fearful that I would be left behind when Jesus took us home in the rapture. I was probably the worst backslider of the century. It came as a wave of peace when I realized that God does not take back His gift of eternal life and salvation when we fail and I think it greives him more when His children don't understand this and suffer so much pain because of this misunderstanding perpetuated by many churches. When God gives He does not take back. If you are in sin when the rapture happens it will not keep you from receiving eternal life but it will affect the rewards you will receive while in this body. They will be counted against you but you will remain a child of God forgiven and covered with the blood of the Lamb.
Don't fret about this, satan will beat you to death with this misconception. Once you are saved it is forever.
The Lords Peace unto you.
Paul


Edited by Paulwa_dup1 (04/18/09 10:31 PM)

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#150802 - 04/19/09 05:07 AM Re: Why do we backslide? [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
ævory
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Originally Posted By: Paulwa_dup1
Cronnie I am one of those who believe once a person is truly saved..he has done all asked of him in turning over his life to Jesus Christ..even if he is never baptized in the immersion of water..he is saved eternally. I don't think that once a person is saved he will ever turn away from his knowledge of Jesus nor what He did to give salvation to that person. Of course you will fail and sin but Jesus says to forgive seventy times seven..or as many times as he is asked for forgiveness. So God does not ever take back this gift of salvation once given and accepted. As long as in your heart you know Jesus is your focal point of life, no matter if you like the prodigal son has gone astray, Jesus will welcome you back the minute you ask His forgiveness. If you never ask forgivness you are still covered by His blood to salvation. I know there is a lot of debate on backsliding and when I was young and in the Assembly of God church I was at the altar every other night repenting of backsliding fearful that I would be left behind when Jesus took us home in the rapture. I was probably the worst backslider of the century. It came as a wave of peace when I realized that God does not take back His gift of eternal life and salvation when we fail and I think it greives him more when His children don't understand this and suffer so much pain because of this misunderstanding perpetuated by many churches. When God gives He does not take back. If you are in sin when the rapture happens it will not keep you from receiving eternal life but it will affect the rewards you will receive while in this body. They will be counted against you but you will remain a child of God forgiven and covered with the blood of the Lamb.
Don't fret about this, satan will beat you to death with this misconception. Once you are saved it is forever.
The Lords Peace unto you.
Paul


Beautiful post, and my understanding as well, paulwa. It is comforting.

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#150807 - 04/19/09 07:33 AM Re: Why do we backslide? [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
cronnie36
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Originally Posted By: Paulwa_dup1
Cronnie I am one of those who believe once a person is truly saved..he has done all asked of him in turning over his life to Jesus Christ..even if he is never baptized in the immersion of water..he is saved eternally. I don't think that once a person is saved he will ever turn away from his knowledge of Jesus nor what He did to give salvation to that person. Of course you will fail and sin but Jesus says to forgive seventy times seven..or as many times as he is asked for forgiveness. So God does not ever take back this gift of salvation once given and accepted. As long as in your heart you know Jesus is your focal point of life, no matter if you like the prodigal son has gone astray, Jesus will welcome you back the minute you ask His forgiveness. If you never ask forgivness you are still covered by His blood to salvation. I know there is a lot of debate on backsliding and when I was young and in the Assembly of God church I was at the altar every other night repenting of backsliding fearful that I would be left behind when Jesus took us home in the rapture. I was probably the worst backslider of the century. It came as a wave of peace when I realized that God does not take back His gift of eternal life and salvation when we fail and I think it greives him more when His children don't understand this and suffer so much pain because of this misunderstanding perpetuated by many churches. When God gives He does not take back. If you are in sin when the rapture happens it will not keep you from receiving eternal life but it will affect the rewards you will receive while in this body. They will be counted against you but you will remain a child of God forgiven and covered with the blood of the Lamb.
Don't fret about this, satan will beat you to death with this misconception. Once you are saved it is forever.
The Lords Peace unto you.
Paul



Thank you for this. I know that God's mercy is outstanding to say the least.

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#150832 - 04/19/09 06:21 PM Re: Why do we backslide? [Re: cronnie36]
starlight.2
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nobody's perfect.
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#150834 - 04/19/09 06:28 PM Re: Why do we backslide? [Re: starlight.2]
Paulwa_dup1
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exactly, Starlight. That is why God's laws cannot be followed by mankind due to sin brought onto mankind. But God will make us perfect once again one day. Jesus blood justafied us if we accept Him. What is justified? In this case it means 'just as if I'd never sinned'. That is how God views us when we are justified.
Paul

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#150882 - 04/20/09 10:40 AM Re: Why do we backslide? [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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There was once a young girl who decided to plant a garden. She started planting seeds but these weeds kept sprouting and made her garden look bad. Everyday it seemed she'd have to go out with her scissors and cut those pesky weeds off..... ??
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#150885 - 04/20/09 10:53 AM Re: Why do we backslide? [Re: Davyd]
cronnie36
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Originally Posted By: Davyd
There was once a young girl who decided to plant a garden. She started planting seeds but these weeds kept sprouting and made her garden look bad. Everyday it seemed she'd have to go out with her scissors and cut those pesky weeds off..... ??



At least she kept busy...And she didn't let the weeds take over. Sometimes everyday is what it takes to achieve the desired result.

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#150886 - 04/20/09 10:54 AM Re: Why do we backslide? [Re: cronnie36]
cronnie36
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M't:5:3: Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
M't:5:4: Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
M't:5:5: Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
M't:5:6: Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.

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#150887 - 04/20/09 10:56 AM Re: Why do we backslide? [Re: cronnie36]
cronnie36
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Sometimes those roots run deep.
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#150898 - 04/20/09 03:32 PM Re: Why do we backslide? [Re: cronnie36]
Davyd
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Originally Posted By: cronnie36
Originally Posted By: Davyd
There was once a young girl who decided to plant a garden. She started planting seeds but these weeds kept sprouting and made her garden look bad. Everyday it seemed she'd have to go out with her scissors and cut those pesky weeds off..... ??



At least she kept busy...And she didn't let the weeds take over. Sometimes everyday is what it takes to achieve the desired result.


If staying busy being concerned by her own weeds is her desired result then you are correct. Seems a little self focused to me.
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#150908 - 04/20/09 07:39 PM Re: Why do we backslide? [Re: cronnie36]
Paulwa_dup1
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Jesus asked, " when I return...will I find faith?' He is not looking for sin free people because His blood sacrifice makes us clean in Gods eyes. No..He is looking for one ingredient in people...faith! that Jesus is the son of God and belief that Jesus died for their sins. We will be a motley looking crowd of people..but God only see's the glistening white garments purchased with the blood of His son. Keep snipping those weeds but know that we can do nothing. It was all bought and paid for by Jesus. He will know His own because they seek His voice and they will gather to Him when He calls.
Maranatha!
Paul

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#150909 - 04/20/09 08:03 PM Re: Why do we backslide? [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
flicka
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Originally Posted By: Paulwa_dup1
Jesus asked, " when I return...will I find faith?' He is not looking for sin free people because His blood sacrifice makes us clean in Gods eyes.

Salvation comes more from His resurrection.
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#150910 - 04/20/09 08:32 PM Re: Why do we backslide? [Re: flicka]
Paulwa_dup1
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That is right Flicka if He wasn't resurrected He would be lying in the grave and unable to save us. Praise God He sits beside His Father and we are saved.
Paul

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