My otherwise loving and devoted boyfriend...

He wants to keep our relationship as long as he can have sex with ABs outside of it.

here is what u do.....find a new (disabled boyfriend) have crazy orgasmic sex that has u screaming for more, video tape it. and send it to this jerk face and say "yeah your right our sex life was pretty pathetic"

you think i have had my heart broken before? just a few times.... i know how to play the revenge game

i kept myself out of this because it's clear what you want. it's possible to think such arrangements are no big deal, but it takes a lot of open communication.

you versus we is where the difficulty arises but I guess it depends on one's perspective

greg why do u pick at everyone, all the time?.. i dont think theres a point in all of it.. specially when u will never meet any of these ppl in person. ur wasting ur own time going off on long rants toward others.. plz explain to me why u do this.

i think greg's new tack is - 'you guys just don't get it.'

...I chose what I thought was an honourable path and would be best, not just for me, but for our "family", mind you not as much fun as Terry's

ok let me clarify summin. its one thing for a cpl to talk about wanting to have another person in the mix for whatever reason, the mr and i have no issues bringing in a girl wed both enjoy. but in my opinion if ur partner is saying that ur no longer attractive to them bc ur in a chair, and theyd rather bone sum1 else, but stay with u.. thats pretty damn insulting.whats that say about the person ur with? sex is so important that they have to go elsewhere? if u LOVE someone, truly love, enough to MARRY them or whatever, sex shouldnt be such a big deal that ud have to stray. there is such things as sex toys and foreplay, intercourse isnt the only intimacy that counts, and to think the person ur with isnt gonna be hurt by the notion that they arent enough for u, simply bc they cant get up n bone u or run up a flight of stairs.. i jus find that to be a fcked subject. when i first started getting emotionally entangeled w my mr, i had to think about what the what if's were for the future, such as his junk may stop working one day, he may need me more as a nurse than a woman.. ect ect.. and whether it was worth it to me to be w him given the circumstances. i knew that there could be things i wouldnt like to have to deal with in that respect, but loving him was more special to me than having some other dudes junk in my body.

well, maybe cause I disagree with their point of view, take terry's latest post, I was faced with a similar situation after I went from healthy to whatever the fuk I am now, Terry and his wife worked out a compramsise that worked for them, I chose what I thought was an honourable path and would be best, not just for me, but for our "family", mind you not as much fun as Terry's

that good enough for ya?

I try not to "pick at everyone", just those who come at me

I guess this is as good as it gets

good luck pretty woman

live n let live, choose what will work for YOU and bite ur tongues when it comes to tearing sum1 else down for seeing it differently. jeezuz!

so don't get testy w/us because you make bad decisions! bad!

i'm always very flattered and encouraged when people suggest that bisexuals have no right or reason to ever be in a relationship with anyone.

MrsDrublic anyone can tell sexy is your soul-mate. i hope you two are 4evers.

nice speech, I used to give the same one back in the day when NM was actually alive, what a futile exercise that was, eventually I got fed up, gave up and went sour, along the way I picked up some haters, wouldn't be suprised if some can't resist the opportunity you have presented them with, now I pretty much do and say what I like, when I like and let the chips fall where they may

i see no reason for ppl to be so mean to eachother, .....

this seems childish. it bothers me that the ADULTS on this site bicker like children over things such as this..

live n let live, choose what will work for YOU and bite ur tongues when it comes to tearing sum1 else down for seeing it differently. jeezuz!

i miss para dude where the hell is he?

yea, right T, talk about obsessed

Dan thrived on the "banter" (his terminology), his shtick was all about the put down, way beyond what I say

assuming your in canada...sometimes

i've lived a life so removed, i wouldn't have a clue.

if one of my children is destined to be a 'bad guy' in some larger universal scheme, i want them to be the best damn homocidal maniac out there.

T, my point wasn't wrt sexuality, it was about respect and stepping out on your spouse in order that one person indulge in their sexual adventures

i've NEVER presented myself as something i'm not to ANYONE i've dated...AND, strangely enough, i've always been one of those guys who's snatched up quickly when single.

good for you, I, I, I, ,me, me, me, my, my, my, reminds me of my X after I got injured

fine, go do "your" whatever, the same thing I told her

let me guess...the imprisioning relatioship is more about LOVE and COMITTMENT, right? bullshit! limits (on others) are much more self-serving and about ME ME ME!

frankly, i think you have it backward.

when your wife told you about her interests/desires, WHO WERE YOU THINKING ABOUT when your said, 'fine, go do "your" whatever?' you didn't even listen to her or care what she wanted, you skipped to how it would affect YOU, how YOU felt about it. <--- and you would call that your 'gift' of fidelity?

I use a power chair because dystrophy. My otherwise loving and devoted boyfriend (AB = able bodied) has had an affair citing his loss of sexual attraction to me, and fears of on going celibacy.

I didn't listen to her?
or care what she wanted?

I had been ther sole one working, I tried but couldn't do the field work, travel side of my job any longer after I was hurt, we couldn't afford to keep the house in Florida, the boat had to go, our social life crumbled as I just couldn't cope with the fast paced lifestyle, intimacy took a huge hit. She didn't see why she should have to give up a $200K lifestyle or a healthy sex life when what had happened was my fault. I couldn't disagree with her.

so... I went and purchased $1K in programming manuals, spent 10 hours a day studying and learned a new trade thinking I could start over. But on the personal side I couldn't fix that. The doctors couldn't tell us what to expect wrt my injury, she yearned for the good life, I was scrambling trying to sell clients on how this brain injured guy could manage and quality control their gov't research data bases, the kids were young and deserved attention, the bedroom side of things just wasn't working.

I was the one who fuked up, I tried to fix it but it obviously wasn't enough cause within six months she wanted out and I figured I owed her, so I made it as painless as possible and we split.

I guess you're right Terry, it was all about me.

We have heard Greg's version of the ending of his relationship. I would like his ex-wife's version. It's been several years and I don't think she has sufferred a TBI so I'd think it only fair to hear her version.

I've formed an opinion of Greg's veracity over the 6 or so years he has graced NM with his presence. How about sending me her email addy or phone number by PM, eh Greg?

Bob,
Since this would require giving out her personal contact information I will check with her to see if it is OK. I would think she would love to discuss a marriage that ended 20 years ago with some creepy, demented old gimp from California who spends his time bothering females.

Or you could just ask her to come join NM.

And subject her to the likes of you?

She doesn't associate with riff raff, why do you think she dumped me?

I'm more concerned she'd show up here and start telling everyone what a great guy and a stud muffin I am.

I don't think you have to worry your little self abut that.

still, it got you thinking/daydreaming

little? hardly.

eta as proven by your freudian slip / parapraxis, "abut"

Hardly any of the above. Simple typo. After all, I have seen the photo page Miss D started. Get real.

you always have been about the put down.

I came on this tread and made a simple suggestion. Who came back with the put down?
This makes twice you've asked for a pic of me. Is it really eating at you that bad?

OK, I thought you were looking to play slap hands. Am I curious? yes, always like to see how my mental image of someone lines up with their actual and if you are even close to my mental image, well, I'm sure you have a great personality. relax, j/k

Dont you mean YOU were looking for someone to play slap hands with?
I can relate with the whole mental image thing. I do that too. Yours lined up pretty well.

Amanda, Amanda, Amanda, yes you were so victimized you just couldn't pull yourself away.
Even if your second comment proves otherwise.

so if you aren't into the slap hands thing and you think I'm a dork, why do you stop by to engage? you angry at something or someone?

Who is Amanda?

I dont recall ever calling you a dork.

I posted the dorkiest picture I could find and as you said your mental image of me lined up so, ipso facto, you think I am a dork.

Wrong. I'm Amber.

I had a frame, incence, candles and an alter just waiting too

interesting, combative, yet demure, saucey, yet bland

I think you need to spice it up
try some hot peppers, anchoives and olives on your pizza next time!
I really think you need to go for it, you have the temperment, now just give yourself a push

Does it look any other way to you?

ok, stick with the whole snide bitch thing, so monolithic, boring

This is more like you.

I tried with you, but you want to stay with the low road, I guess it is just who you are

I tried with you, but you want to stay with the low road, I guess it is just who you are

What exactly did you try with me?

To not react to your constant snide and sarcastic comebacks, to be clever instead of cruel, to be self depricating instead of always in attack mode.

But the pickle is obviously too far up your ass to be worth the effort.